Walk Summary
A fine walk around the Wainwrights in the Whinlatter area: Whinlatter, Lord's Seat, Broom Fell and Graystokes. Extensive views over to Grisedale Pike, Skiddaw, the Solway Firth and the Loweswater fells. A mixture of fells, forestry trails and forestry roads.
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Date: 26/02/2024
Length: 8.655 miles
Height Gain: 593 m
Terrain: Forestry roads, grassy tracks, boggy tracks, stone tracks, woodland trails, fells.
Navigation: Map, compass and gps required. Route finding can be a little tricky between Whinlatter and Lord's Seat. A gps is useful for this section. The forestry roads are well documented on the OS map.
Start: Spout Force Carpark (free)
Route: Spout Force Carpark, Brown How, Whinlatter Top, Ullister Hill, Lord's Seat, Broom Fell, Graystones, Kirk Fell
Map: OL4 The English Lakes North Wastern Area
Weather: Grey, sunny in afternoon
Walkers: Nun
Captain's Log
Tree Troublers
A dreaded Tree Troubler's Notice was nailed to a post at the Whinlatter Spout Force carpark. Once I'd togged up, I wandered over to have a peruse. It showed a map of the Whinlatter area with large red patches indicating areas blocked off due to 'forestry activities.' I had intended going over Whinlatter Hill to the Visitors Centre and then making my way back to the carpark over the Whinlatter Pass itself. Judging by the red blotches on this map, my intended route would be blocked off. I'd have to have a rethink. After a quick consideration I came up with a plan: I'd climb over Whinlatter Hill as I'd initially intended, but then do a circular walk including the hills to the north (Lord's Seat, Broom Fell and Graystones), and then drop down to the forestry roads to get back to the carpark. My intended route would come very close to the red marked areas. I'd just have to keep my head down and see how far I could get.
Tree Troubler Land
Looking Over To The Solway Firth And Scotland
Shelter On Brown How
Whinlatter
When doing the Wainwrights (see Tour De Whinlatter) I'd walked over to nearby Brown How and noticed a good track heading downhill to the west. Obviously people had gone down that way and I'd wondered whether it would be possible to get down to the Spout Force carpark. There was no track indicated on the OS map. I'd decided to investigate this track at a later time. Well, 'investigation day' had arrived; today I'd find out if there was a path.
Whinlatter Top
From the Spout Froce carpark, I followed the forestry road into the valley and before reaching the Aiken plantation I doubled back on a higher road, on the flank of Brown How. I reached a patch of hillside which the Tree Troublers had nuked and started heading directly up the hillside, avoiding the debris from their activities. I could see a stone wall above me and according the OS map, open fell was beyond. I could see a couple of breaks in the stone wall but couldn't make out whether they had been fenced off with wire. I'd not got very far uphill when I reached an obvious track leading up to the stone wall. I followed it and it brought me up to the ridge that is north of Brown How. A stile deposited me over the wall and I was on open fell. Well that was easier than I thought it'd be! There was even an obvious track on the other side, presumably leading up to the summit. |I started following it and 20 minutes later I arrived at the stone shelter on the top of Brown How. Across the valley to the south, there was a good view of the snow topped Grisedale Pike and its neighbours. I continued onwards and ticked off Whinlatter Hill's top. Now for the tricky bit...finding my way through the forest and those dastardly red-marked areas to Lord's Seat. I set off in that direction with a degree of trepidation.
Lord's Seat From Ullister Hill
Forest Trails
I'd seen (presumably) forestry worker's cars down in the valley, together with a crane for moving logs. I couldn't hear any sawing though, which was encouraging. I made my way around the head of the valley and followed the side of Thornthwaite Forest northwards towards Ullister Hill. I was encouraged when I found a gate giving me access to the plantation and a track through the trees soon led to a forestry road. I looked right and left and saw that signs had been put up prohibiting further access along the roads. That was lucky; I'd managed to find an 'allowed passage' to Lord's Seat. By following mountain bike routes (Dead Wood Green Route and then Seat How Summit Trail) I was able to progress northwards to Ullister Hill. I broke away from the trees at this point and could even see the lump of Lord's Seat ahead of me.
Grisedale Pike
Looking To Broom Fell From Lord's Seat
Shelter And Cairn On Broom Fell
Lord's Seat And Broom Fell
As I made my way up to Lord's Seat, I met my first walkers of the day, making their way down. They weren't up for a chat though. It was quite windy and cold on the exposed summit. Mist still clung to the summit of Skiddaw over to the east. My next target, Broom Fell was clearly visible over to the north-west. I remembered that it had a distinctive large cairn and stone shelter near its top. It was approaching lunchtime and I planned to use the stone shelter to get out of the wind as I ate my grub.
As it turned out, the wind was blowing directly into the seating area of the shelter. I walked around to its rear and saw that somebody had built a makeshift seat. What luck! I sat down and ate my cheese sandwich. The sun had come out now. Things were looking up.
On the way to Graystones, I met an elderly couple coming the other way. We chatted for a while. They'd just done Graystones and were making their way over to Whinlatter; basically the reverse of the route I had just done. 'Are you going to do Graystones?' the woman asked me. That was a good question and I gave a vague reply; I'd not decided yet.
Looking Back To Lord's Seat From Graystones
Graystones
I dropped down to the col before Graystones. The reason I was a bit reluctant to commit to going up Graystones is that it would be an out-and-back affair with a steep 150 foot ascent/descent. The sun was out now though and the day still young. Shame on me if I didn't do it. I set off up its steep flank.
It didn't take me that long to get to the top. The last time I'd been here, it had been misty. Given the sunny conditions I decided to do some exploring of the large area at the top. Firstly, I visited the 456m high Graystones top. For some reason, Wainright nominated the nearby craggier 450 metre summit for his Wainwright list. I went over that and continued on to Kirk Fell. It was worth making the short trip over since there was a good view southwards down the valley towards Buttermere. The fell had a grassy slope that rolled away to the village of Lorton down in the valley. I was glad I'd made the effort to do the out-and-back to Graystones and Kirk Fell. I started making my way back to the col where my Graystone's excursion had started.
Broken Wall Leading To Graystones (Wainwright)
Descending Along The Forestry Roads
One Of The Forestry Roads Was Quite Muddy
Return
Back at the col, I couldn't find a stile and had to climb over a wooden fence to gain access to the forestry area. There was a track though that led me down through the nuked area of the plantation to the forestry road below. Progress from here was a lot easier since I could just follow forestry roads back to the carpark. It didn't take me long to make my way down to the bottom of the valley and cross the bridge over Aiken Beck. This is the stream that services Spout Force. Surprisingly, given the moist, ecent weather, there didn't seem to be much water tumbling down the beck. The waterfall would be less impressive than normal (see Spout Force - Eighth Wonder Of The World).
All the parking spots had been taken when I got back to the carpark. Obviously the forestry operations hadn't deterred walkers. It had turned out to be an excellent improvised walk. I'd found a route up to Whinlatter from the west and found a good route through the forest maze to Lord's Seat. This provided me with good knowledge for future walks in the area.